Okay, I'm ticked. I had a potential client who had moderate to mild asthma. She is in no danger as long as we watch all the guidelines. Her doctor refuses to let her train with "one of those trainers" but suggested that she go ahead and exercise on her own if she wants to. DOES THAT MAKE ANY BLOODY SENSE!!!???? Don't exercise with someone who can guide you in the right direction, but go ahead and endanger yourself by exercising on your OWN? He also said that if something happens to her, he doesn't want the liability coming back on him.
I was ticked, and I shouldn't have let the client know that, but...er, I did.
Bottom line is that she needs to find a new doctor! I have moderate asthma, and my doctors have always encouraged me to explore all types of exercise... just to not push myself TOO hard. It makes NO sense that her doctor wouldn't want her to work with a trainer. Not only is it better for her to be working with someone who can guide her, but if she were to have an asthma attack, at least she would have you there to help her!
I have asthma!! if my doctor told me that I would tell him where he could put it! Tell her to get a real opinion from a real doctor!
I would have expressed myself as well...I don't think that you were in the wrong. If that person has an issue now without a trainer he is liable...lol what a moron.
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If a person wants something that they have never had, they have to do something that they have never done. - Shawn Fears, CPT
I told her to get a second opinion and she was very indignant, saying she'd been with her doctor for many years and trusted him. So again, having a big mouth, I said: "I see. You trust a doctor who will tell you to not exercise with an expert who will keep you from harming yourself, but will allow you to exercise on your own even though you don't know what you're doing. Is that the doctor you're trusting?"
She looked a little thoughtful and said "I'll work on him."
I told her to get a second opinion and she was very indignant, saying she'd been with her doctor for many years and trusted him. So again, having a big mouth, I said: "I see. You trust a doctor who will tell you to not exercise with an expert who will keep you from harming yourself, but will allow you to exercise on your own even though you don't know what you're doing. Is that the doctor you're trusting?"
She looked a little thoughtful and said "I'll work on him."
Hi Nora,
I'm sorry I've not been around, been busy trying to figure out ways to market myself w/ the personal training. Hopefully will have some folks starting soon, have some that want to start but are scared w/ the economy.
Anyway, I'm REALLY proud of you for telling that person what you told her. That doctor is a TOTAL moron, it makes no sense what he said to her.
All I could think of what you told her was "YOU GO GIRL!".
That's the first time I've ever uttered those words but it seemed fitting! :)
Scott, I'm running into a lot of morons. They're making a lot more money than I am, too.
One person whose son is having hamstring problems (runner, flat feet) I recommended: get motion control shoes for overpronation. Their trainer's advice? No way, it'll make his knees turn out when he runs. Trainer. Certified. They believe their trainer, of course.
Another person has been seeing a trainer for eight years (same trainer). No shoulders at all, overweight. What have they been doing for eight years? Circuit training...one machine to the next, nothing more. Again, they believe their trainer is doing best by them.
This is extremely bad"One person whose son is having hamstring problems (runner, flat feet) I recommended: get motion control shoes for overpronation. Their trainer's advice? No way, it'll make his knees turn out when he runs. Trainer. Certified. doh They believe their trainer, of course."
You should find a medical reference to over pronation and bad knees and hips and give it to that person to give to their trainer. I am willing to bet that the person gets knee pains(IT Band Syndrome) because they refused to get motion control shoes....tell them to talk to a physical therapist or a biomechanical specialist if they don't believe you...that is just plain retarded YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!! if that makes you feel any better
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If a person wants something that they have never had, they have to do something that they have never done. - Shawn Fears, CPT
as for the second one, offer them a free session of a real workout maybe they will see the light....I can't believe any trainer would still be using machines after 8 years. That violates major training principles:
* The Law of Individual Differences: We all have different abilities, bodies and weaknesses, and we all respond differently (to a degree) to any given system of training. These differences should be taken into consideration when designing your training program.
* The Overcompensation Principle: Mother Nature overcompensates for training stress by giving you bigger and stronger muscles.
* The Overload Principle: To make Mother Nature overcompensate, you must stress your muscles beyond what they're already used to.
* The SAID Principle: The acronym for "Specific Adaptation to Imposed Demands." Each organ and organelle responds to a different form of stress.
* The Use/Disuse Principle: "Use it or lose it" means that your muscles hypertrophy with use and atrophy with disuse.
* The GAS Principle: The acronym for General Adaptation Syndrome, this law states that there must be a period of low intensity training or complete rest following periods of high intensity training.
* The Specificity Principle: You'll get stronger at squats by doing squats as opposed to leg presses, and you'll get greater endurance for the marathon by running long distances than you will by (say) cycling long distances.
All of these principles must be followed when planning a program for a client, jif any are overlooked then it is not a complete program!
I am going to say that the "machine circuit" followed for 8 years violates at least 5 of these basic principles if not all of them lol
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If a person wants something that they have never had, they have to do something that they have never done. - Shawn Fears, CPT
Thanks, I know!!!! It's driving me crazy. I see so-called trainers (and I wonder if their certs were off cereal boxes) out there WRECKING people. The more I see what's out there, Shawn, the more I know I SHOULD be out there. I'm scared to make the jump, but I'm teetering on the edge.
When I took scuba instruction many years ago, the first time I had to enter the water backward with a tank of air, I stood on the edge of the pool for fifteen minutes, paralyzed with fear. The instructor finally came along and shoved my shoulder! That got me into the water.
I need the same thing, here I think. The economy scares me, and I'm just not sure I could survive financially since I only have about $10,000 saved.
Shawn, I have IT syndrome for an interesting reason (working on it now. Very glad I have it because I can experiment on ME rather than my clients). I have flat feet. When I became a trainer, I realized it for the first time. Got motion control running shoes, but did not compensate in my regular shoes. Got IT syndrome, which I'm working on with Myofascial release, corrective inserts, keeping a neutral spine at all times. It helps, but you know -- I never heard anyone at ACE discuss this. I'm studying NASM now and they don't mention it, either. This is so important.
They believe their trainer, of course.