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Veryify me on this please


I'm not going to give you my answer yet, because I'd like to see if my answer lines up with any of yours.

I have a female client, aged 48, who weighs 138 pounds.  Her BMI is 26% and her lean body mass is 102 lbs. 

What percentage of weight would she have to lose to be in the healthy category (what weight would she come in at?).

I have my answer...I want to see if yours lines up with mine.

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first off there is no need to even write BMI down as it is too outdated to even use.
second lets figure out her BF%(looks like the 26% was the BF not BMI)
ok so she is 26% which is not too bad(but not in the healthy category)
but getting her to 22%would be great(healthy category)
this would be at about 130 lbs with no loss of lean muscle

now lets compare notessmile

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For her height, I have her at 110-115 pounds.

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height is irrelevant weight is irrelevant BODY FAT is the only thing relevant to the question you are asking

remember that the height weight numbers that make up the BMI have been outdated since the 80's stick with body composition

if her lean body mass is 102 how can she possibly get to 110 she would be below 10% and for a female higher body fat is needed unless she is a professional athlete or a figure/bodybuilder competitor in such cases hormonal regulation is affected by the lower BF

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130 definitely seems excessive for someone barely 5'1".

I'm really bothered that BMI is outdated since ACE teaches it so heavily and it was a significant factor on the test.  I believe you're correct, but...bummer!

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I admit I'm very confused on this.  I called ACE and they said that I should take the LBM and divide it by 76-79% to get the ideal body weight.

WHY?  This was never covered in the text, if I'm not mistaken.

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1 - ideal body fat =
1 - (21%-24%) = .76-.79
102/.79=129lbs

this was in the manualwink

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True.  But it still seems excessive on someon 5'1"!



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at 5'1" 130 lbs that is one stocky woman, I do see what you are saying and it is possible to diet down the lean body mass but that would only be detrimental for her metabolism which would lead to difficulties with dropping unwanted fat. so if she wanted you could bring her BF down then work on her total body weight if she is unhappy but remember to keep an eye on her BF because as her LBM goes down her BF might go up

by the way I wouldn't recommend doing this but it is possible to do

this is the whole reason the BMI is out dated because it doesn't follow
The Principle of Individual Differences
if her BF is fine and she is fit then what would be the problem other than the weight seems too high, which would only be a concern if it was affecting her lower body joints.

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Interesting string.

Question, Tekva: Does your client's fat distribution seem normal, or is she disproportionately fat in one or more areas?

Barry

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Normal distribution.

This is the thing that bothers me, and it's not in the least bit scientific!  I am 5'4".  I weigh about 115 because even though that leaves me thinner than I like to be (especially in the face at my age), any more than that shows up significantly on thighs, abs, so I keep it at 115.  And I'm talking, a few pounds shows up.  Now I KNOW that's low...but on me, it looks right, and knowing I'm fit and healthy, I'm personally happy with it.

So when do we stick with the stats and the science and when do we go with what looks right and what the client is happy with?  I'm not talking letting them become anorexic because they like that, please don't get me wrong.



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I think for all of us - clients too - feeling fit and healthy trumps a numerical value, especially values that won't change or stay changed through sensible eating and good exercise.

A couple possibilities, though: Recent reports have identified sleep disorders/insufficient sleep as contributing to weight problems; ditto stress-associated cortisol.  Have you explored sleep and stress with your client?

Barry

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She's okay with the stress level. 

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Okay, here's the answer: Blame it on her previous trainer and declare success.

Barry

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PERFECT!  That's in my play book from now on!!!   idea

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BarryB wrote:

Okay, here's the answer: Blame it on her previous trainer and declare success.

Barry




 LOL I like that hahahahhaa



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